"What is a Golden Doodle?"
A Golden Doodle is a hybrid of a Golden Retriever and a Standard Poodle. This cross provides the best benefits of both breeds. Doodles provide a
drastic difference in shedding, and sometimes almost no shedding. So families with allergy issues often can tolerate Doodles. Not to mention that
Doodles can have very wavy to just slightly wavy hair that can be of the texture of a golden or of the soft silky hair of the poodle or anything in
between! Their intelligence is above and beyond average as well. This is probably because of the high intelligence of the Golden Retriever and even
higher more complex intelligence of the Poodle combined with the faster maturing traits of the Golden Retriever. There is a benefit of Hybrid Vigor in
that genetic defects that are common to specific breeds can not be replicated in a cross of two breeds. This provides a healthier puppy that will be
free of some of the inherited defects that can come with specific single breeds. Its been known that they can be healthier and live longer than either
of the breeds individually because of this benefit. But you don't have to take our word for it, do a search, you can see for yourself. Personality wise, if
you've ever known a golden doodle then hands down you know what amazing dogs they are! If you don't know one, you definitely should!
Doodle Differences
"What are the differences in the coats or fur"
Golden Doodles can have a combination coat of both fur and hair.

Golden Retrievers have fur which grows only to a certain length and then falls out or "sheds". There is an over coat and undercoat to shed water and to insulate.
The Golden Retriever fur coat has the dander, which for some people triggers allergies. The coat changes for a thicker and warmer winter coat and a thinner and
lighter summer coat. These times of year the shedding increases, more so in the spring than in fall. The coat does shed a little all year though. It has been noticed
that lighter colored Golden Retrievers, like the English Cremes, tend to shed a little more. This may be true, or it may just be because the white fur is noticed more.

Poodles don't have fur, rather they have hair which grows and needs to be trimmed. The coat is softer cotton type of coat. So when this coat is brushed its very
fluffy and full. Because of it's fine consistency it can get mats.  Poodles do not have dander so that is why they are considered Hypoallergenic. While some hair
may fall out or comb out, like ours does, they are not considered to shed. Some poodles have tighter curls and some have looser curls. Both of our Poodles have the
looser type of curl. When a poodle is cut short, their coat feels like velvet. When it is left long, sometimes they can even look like doodles.

Golden Doodles vary in their coat consistency and it depends on how much of a percentage there is of golden retriever or poodle. Generally choosing a puppy
that has more wave in coat will result in a Doodle that has less shedding. Golden Doodles also take quite a while for their coats to fully mature. The process can
make their coats seem quite different at various ages. Golden Retrievers take at least 3 -4 years for their full coat to blossom. Poodles do not take that long at all. A
Golden Doodle may look much like a Golden Retriever puppy as a young puppy and then the coat may become wild crazy and wispy. It may also appear quite
uneven, especially around 5 -6months old. It takes patience but it will fill in, but probably not until well over a year old.

Grooming: Trimming it may help it to look more 'full'. Unlike a Golden Retriever, but like a Poodle, the beard and furry tusks may grow in the chin area  quite quickly.
This is easy to trim and makes for a better look.  The fur may look wispy around they eyes and may flip forward. A little trim there may make it look much more full
and give it that adorable Doodle look, however be careful not to trim that too short. A full body trim to get rid of the wispy look can be done around 6-9 months.
Depending on the look you like, a full groom trim can be done once to twice a year. Checking for mats around the ears, toes, collar, armpits, and hind quarters
should be done monthly. Trimming the fur on/between the pads of the feet should be done every 3 -4 months, especially important to have it trimmed for winter to
avoid ice collection there and for better gripping. Bathing can be done as often as needed, especially in mud season! Just watch for dry skin. You can use a dog
shampoo or Pantene and the conditioner is great too. The biggest thing is to make sure the coat is rinsed well and fully dry before putting collars back on. Also use
caution that the ears are dry and the inner ear hair is removed to avoid retaining moisture and forming yeast infections or ear infections.


F1 Golden Doodle (50%/50%)
The "regular" type and original type of Golden Doodle
is  a 50%/50% cross from a breeding of a  
Golden
Retriever x  Standard Poodle
.  This is the "First
Generation Golden Doodle". There can be some
variation in the outcome of their puppies such as in
coat type, shedding, and framing, but once a good
breeding pair is established their offspring can be quite
predictable. A detailed breeder will be able to give
you a good estimate, but there are variations.  
Personality wise they are pretty consistent.
In case you were wondering about F2 Doodles These are Doodle x Doodle Crosses. Right now we do not offer these crosses. They are basically
still like having a 50%x 50% cross. So knowing this, when we are breeding our Golden Doodle we prefer to breed to create F1b doodles so that
we can create Doodles with either more Poodle or more Golden Retriever traits. In the future we may do this, but at this time we do not.
                                                                  "What is a Sugar Doodle?"
"SugarDoodle" is the term we use for when we create Golden Doodle puppies that have the English Creme Golden Retriever Lines in them. This creates a beautiful
Doodle who is much lighter in color than the average Doodle and has more of the English Creme Golden Retriever features with the decreased shedding of the
Poodles. The English Creme lines of the Golden Retrievers do appear to shed a little more even than American lines of Golden Retrievers so there may still  be some
shedding in a Sugar Doodle puppy that has these lines, however it will be minimal.  English Creme lines of the Golden Retriever are still purebred but they are a
more exquisite variation within the breed where they tend to lean more towards the slightly shorter, stockier framing scale and the coat is much lighter, sometimes
almost white.  The coat also tends to be softer and silkier. These lines tend to be even more mellow. They are truly show stoppers. So using them to create a Golden
Doodle is like getting a puppy that is just as white and sweet as sugar. Hence the name "Sugar Doodles". They have been stunning!
"Are Golden Doodles a Mix or a Mutt?"
Well I guess that depends, as with many things, on who you are talking to. If you are talking to someone who only breeds one specific breed of
dog and believes that only that breed is superior and no other breed should exist, you may get some interesting responses.  I don't believe that
only one breed is "the best". I think there are breeds that are best for different situations and different people. I love Golden Retrievers, but if you
want them to herd cattle or sheep, they aren't the dog to do that.  Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles in many ways have similar traits.
Poodles don't shed as much and think on an even higher level making training them a dream come true. Golden Retrievers are loving and
affectionately loyal and mature rather quickly, making getting through puppy hood relatively painless. Golden Doodles are the best of both
worlds.  They are not considered a mix or even a mutt but rather a "
Cross" or a "Hybrid" this is because the parentage of a golden doodle is
known, unlike that of the mixes or mutts. The expected outcome has some variations but is predictable within that range.  Also a good breeder
only breeds healthy and sound dogs that have had the appropriate veterinary testing to clear them as healthy for breeding. These are planned
breedings of two purebred breeds in order to create a hybrid that compliments the best of both of those breeds. The Golden Doodle personality
is quite consistent and predictable and that is why Golden Doodles have become so unbelievably popular!
"What one is better?"
That is purely a matter of preference. They all will have that wonderful Golden Doodle personality. There isn't going to be a difference depending on
what type F1 or F1b, in my opinion.  This is where we can work with you to find out what it is that you are looking for in both appearance and personality.
We would never breed any of our dogs if they had any allergies, health issues, or temperament issues. Every litter may have some variances  amongst
each litter mate. However, every litter has the more reserved or the more bold personality pup too and we spend hours and hours with these puppies,
really get to know them. We can help pair you up with just the right puppy, all you have to do is let us know what you're looking for.
Kiwi      Karma          Emma
March 2009

(Kiwi is not normally that dark- it must have been
the angle of the lighting)
Golden Retriever, Golden Doodle, and Standard Poodle
Poodle Emma and Doodle Karma
Brandi-7 month
old Sugar Doodle
Our Poodle Emma- with her longer
coat-looks almost like a Doodle!
Karma our Golden Doodle
Our Poodle Emma- with her longer
coat-looks almost like a Doodle!

Doodle Comparison Chart:
www.thosegoldens.com
Wisconsin Breeder of Golden Retriever and Golden Doodle Puppies For Sale
"Please always work with a Responsible Breeder!"
www.thosegoldens.com
So you want a puppy...
"What are the different types ?"
By selective breeding, certain qualities and traits can
really be promoted in the golden doodles.


F1b Godlen Doodle
(25%/75%  or  75%/25%)
The backcross type of Golden Doodle
is a 75%/25% cross from a breeding of a Golden
Doodle with one of the purebreds. There are
two ways this can occur with either a cross of a
Golden Doodle x Golden Retriever for more
Golden Retriever traits or a cross of a
Golden
Doodle x Standard Poodle
for more Poodle
traits. This produces a puppy that has much
more predictable qualities.
Golden Retriever x Standard Poodle
Original Golden Doodle
Creates:  F1b Golden Doodles
Cross %:   50% Poodle/50% Golden Retriever
Coat Type: Varies, generally moderately
evenor loose type wave
Shedding: Varies, will shed some, but far
lessthan golden retrievers do. Approx. up to
10% of what Golden Retrievers shed
Allergies: Varies depending on coat, will
have some dander but will be much less
than Golden Retrievers. Good for families
with mild to moderate allergies to dander.
Framing: Varies, however English Creme
lines of Golden Retrievers tend tobe more
dominant. More likely to have Golden
Retriever frame.
Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type.
Probably not much grooming, maybe 1-2
times a year. May need to trim facial areas
or a a few wispy areas.
Perfect For: Families with mild allergies or
those looking for the most Golden Retriever
looks  in with the benefit of decreased
shedding of a Golden Doodle. Even easier
to train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true!
Karma F1 Golden Doodle
Jax F1 Light
Golden Doodle
Jax F1
Light Golden Doodle
Ariyanna F1 Sugar Doodle
Ariyanna F1 Sugar Doodle
F1b Sugar Doodle
(more Retriever)
8 wks
F1b Golden Doodle
(more Poodle)
8 wks
Karma our
Golden Doodle
Golden Doodle x Golden Retriever
F1b-More Golden Retriever
Creates:  F1b Golden Doodles
Cross %:   25% Poodle/75% Golden Retriever
Coat Type: Varies, but leans towards less
curl most likely, more fur type coat.
Shedding: Varies, will shed some, but far less
than golden retrievers do. Approximately
up to 1/4 of what Golden Retrievers shed.
Allergies: Varies depending on coat, will
have some dander but will be less
than Golden Retrievers. Good for families
with only lightly mild allergies to dander.
Framing: Varies, however English Creme
lines of Golden Retrievers tend to
be more dominant. More likely to have
the stockier Golden Retriever frame.
Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type.
Probably not much grooming, may need
to trim facial hair or a few wispy areas.
Perfect For: Families with mild allergies or
those looking for the most Golden Retriever
looks  with the benefit of decreased
shedding of a Golden Doodle. Even easier to
train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true
!
F1b-More Poodle
Creates:  F1b Golden Doodles
Cross %:   75% Poodle/25% Golden Retriever
Coat Type: Varies, but leans towards more
wave, more hair (less fur) type coat.
Shedding: Very little to almost none. Least
Shedding of all GoldenDoodles. Very
possible to hardly shed at all.
Allergies: Varies depending on coat, may
have very minimal dander to no
dander. Best for those with dander
allergies to dogs. Good for families with
moderate or strong allergies to dander.
Framing: Varies.  Will be the avg size of a     
golden retriever and under the coat
possibly slightly more slender.
Grooming: Varies, depends on coat type.
Probably need to be groomed 2 or 3
times a year depending on preferences.
Perfect For: Families with dander allergies of
moderate/strong or those looking for the
most non-shedding Golden Doodle, or for
the most wavy type of coat. Even easier to
train than Golden Retrievers, yes it is true!